At PBR it's a devastating hit. In every shotgun that I have ever patterened, a standard full choke will pattern better with 4, 00, and 000 buck without exception, all testing done at 40 yards. The rule at play here is killing power. Buckshot is suitable for close range only. I think thats pretty safe to say. Reply. Having a hit probability greater than chance (greater than 50% of pellets make scoreable hits on target). No one in their right mind should use a long barrel shotgun for in home security/protection, unless that is all they have. The main one is simple: Triple-aught is the most-effective size of buckshot. This shotgun includes a SureFire forearm, a BlackHawk Knoxx Stock and a three-point sling. At 10 feet distance it is routine for not all of the buckshot pellets to spread out enough to cut independent paths through the gelatin and this skews the penetration depth figure in the direction of deeper penetration. 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Buckshot is generally used for two purposes: Self-defense and hunting medium to large game. But they did all require a finishing shot. Pretty much 100 percent of the pattern will be on the deer. [up] I've used turkey chokes before and got good buckshot patterns.However,the 2 best chokes I've shot for buckshot have been the Patternmaster and Kick's Buck Kicker. Shotguns increase hit probability by launching multiple projectiles per trigger pull but the limitation is that shotshells can only hold so many spheres or pellets. Im glad that you all like the video. Yes I have slugs readily available as well. I have tried extended chokes, and found them to be little better, if any. This was to ensure that all shot pellets struck the paper and could be accounted for in the further range calculation. JOHN: So for me, I guess the big takeaway was that inside of 25, the shotgun is devastating. The maximum effective range of buckshot is 50 yards. In fact, most of the pattern doesnt cover anything at all. This is typical "cheapo" buckshot that does not use plated shot or buffering material to limit shot deformation. Much better than aiming at the head. Safe to say I wouldn't be afraid to try to kill a deer with these loads at that range (40 yards). But it's only 50 feet! Overall, it looks fairly tight but you obviously have some fliers that didn't strike the target. The tested Mossberg 590 had a cylinder bore which was boresighted with a Site Lite SL-500 Ultra Mag Green Laser Boresighter to coincide with a SIG ROMEO4 red dot sight at 25 yards distance. box at basspro.com. We tested 12 gauge shotshells utilizing #4, #1 and 00 buckshot (both plated and unplated) to determine the maximum effective range of each type of shotshell when shot through a practical 12 gauge shotgun with cylinder choke. Especially when you back off to 40 yards or so. The Mission of Cheaper Than Dirt! The application referred to here is exactly the one I was looking for and also the exact distances: perfect! One most common type of buckshot is #00 buck. Finally, I tried the 3 inch Magnum load. Thats how animals run off wounded, never to be found. You probably already knew that. I agree,that's the gun I use and it's a killer. It will be noted from above that the physical distance between the muzzle of the test shotgun and the paper targets was 40 yards for the #1 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled), 00 buckshot (unplated, buffered) and 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled.) I suppose I could try the M4 with a Cyl. Buckshot is not manufactured by a company that consistently shoots a pattern as tight as Hornady's. The Boar Blaster, from Trulock Chokes, did a good job of patterning cheap buckshot loads. Wife has a UNWR tag in a few weeks. #4 will have around 21 to 28 pellets. Generally, this is 30-yard buckshot. If you are the intended victim, you will not have the element of surprise nor the initiative in the opening moments of the conflict two elements critical to the survival of such an event. After much thought I am going to stick with my 000 buckshot. What's the Maximum Effective Range of Buckshot? The buffered, extra-hard buckshot is contained within a two-piece wad with full-length cuts made to the shotcup. Will buckshot kill at 50 yards? Brass Fetcher 28.3K subscribers 141K views 9 years ago Ballistic gelatin test results of Buckshot at 50 yards distance. I should mention that the stock of the Mossberg 500 prevented me from getting down on the bead sights as much as I wouldve liked, so I tended to shoot a little high using the same center-mass target. Buckshot pellets must be copper-plated or made of high antimony lead and feature an effective wadding system in order to be considered to fall into the performance category of spherical buckshot. They offer the advantage of tremendous stopping power. May 22, 2014. At 50 feet the group expanded to about seven inches in diameter with eight of the nine pellets easily staying withing the size of an average person's face. If you are shooting No.3 or No.4 buckshot, you should keep it under 30 yards. Deformed #4 buckshot was excluded from the testing due to its inability to meet the gelatin penetration criteria at muzzle velocity. We considered 50 yards the maximum range but we didn't worry about losing a crippled deer because the dogs would trail it up. Hunting maybe, but that was not his focus. Tungsten Super Shot (TSS) has mostly been a good thing for turkey hunting. The patterns were a single hole out to 20 feet. Keep Reading. CHRIS: Right, and thats with your gun. CHRIS: If its the only we could come up with some scenario where it makes sense but its going to be pretty rare. Premium, buffered loads of hard pellets are worth the price you pay for them for shooting at longer ranges (40 yards). Very good info. If you need proof, Brass Fetcher tested buckshot against ballistic gelatin at 50 yards and then managed to chronograph it at 50 yards (no small feat). Of course, all of that is moot if one is using a rifled slug or even the venerable pumpkin ball. Though it has less constriction than modified choke it delivers 50 percent of the pellets in a 30 inch at 40 yards. Buckshot pellets are significantly larger than birdshot. So how are buckshot patterns affected by distance and barrel length? The #4 would be something for walking in the dark using it as a defensive shell i. In fact, at 25 yards, the 14-inch-barreled 590A1 produced a pattern 1-inch smaller than the 500. There isnt much out there in 000 buckshot, its never really been popular. If I remember correctly, theres only 75 feet per second difference. For Coyotes I personally would use a .223, but if you have to use a shotgun to 75 yards, I'd go with Hornady 3" Heavy Coyote: Hornady Heavy Mag Coyote Ammo 12 Ga 3 00 Buckshot Nickel - MPN: 86224. What is the effective range of 12-gauge 00 buckshot? This is simply figuring for penetration. Display as a link instead, Ask for advice on chokes for buckshot and youll get every answer from IC to Turkey Full. I'm not exactly a diehard with pistol-caliber carbines but I definitely enjoy them. One need not be concerned about such while hunting deer, for example. I actually killed all of my deer this way. If that's 40 yards, great, pattern at 40. I founded TFB in 2007 and over 10 years worked tirelessly, with the help of my team, to build it up into the largest gun blog online. The combination of penetration and effect favors #00 and this is the load that has seen the most development for personal defense. 00 shot shells generally contain eight or nine .330 caliber projectiles. 2009-2022 LuckyGunner, LLC. But TSS has also given some hunters a false sense of how far they can kill a longbeard. During my decade at TFB I was fortunate to work with the most amazing talented writers and genuinely good people. GENERALY no one should need a very long shot inside their home or apartment. We set up targets and shot them from measured distances to note the size of the spread. The #00 still was. With the Fiocchi Low Recoil round (8 pellet) - the group opens up to 18-20" and always seems to have at least one flier. Modified choke, by the way, shoots very good patterns with many different loads. JOHN: Yeah. Specs: Gauge 12 Gauge. Witness Protection 870: The 12.5-Inch Short-Barreled US Marshals Shotgun. probably about 10% so a 25 yard pattern would be about 27.5". A shotgun shooting a slug is also much more precise than a shotgun shooting buckshot. #4 buck will pattern 100% in a 20" circle at 40 yards. When I pattern with a MOD choke it will open it up to 10"-12" patterns with vertical stringing. CHRIS: Yeah, it was around nine inches at 50 [yards]. Wow! In order to provide a further verification check, a Winchester 1300 12 gauge with 28 barrel (cylinder bore) was shot at 25 yards distance from 10% ballistic gelatin blocks with all shotshell types used in this report. Best #4 Buckshot patterns I have shot (Rem3", Win3", and Fed 3") has been with a Carlson's Turkey choke in my 11/87. First, Im going to do what my logic teacher taught me. Incidentally, as often happens with buckshot, one of the nine pellets seemed to miss the big piece of cardboard I was shooting at entirely. As you can see, it made a 27 inch spread. My "comfort zone" is 20-35 yards, but I have dropped several past 35 yards. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. So IF my pellets had sufficient penetration, I'd say this pattern would be OK for deer hunting. Hornady has several 00 buckshot that uses their flitecontrol shot-cup wad. I have no experience with extended chokes or chokes with longer taper, but then I have not found the need yet. Would you get this with birdshot? June 2, 2010 in Shotgun - Technical. All three shotguns created patterns measuring 1.5 inches or less at 12 feet. Especially when you back off to 40 yards or so. The procedure I fired one round of each load from each of the three different choke tubes. Deformed #4 buckshot is not acceptable for self-defense at any range, Penetration differences between shot sizes begins to become less significant with spherical #1 buckshot, Heavier buckshot has an increased ability to penetrate because of a large increase in mass with an accompanying small increase in surface area. Because they have a poor sectional density, they shed their energy fast, both in the air and in the target.For close shots, aim for the shoulder, straight up the leg to hit the heart and lungs. The single buckshot pellets were acquired from shotshells shot from a SAAMI 12 gauge test barrel (24 length, cylinder bore) into a cotton soft-catch box (Figure 1) and were then handloaded and shot into gelatin from low-pressure handgun cartridges (Figures 2, 3, and 4) at a wide range of velocities. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Dont be tempted to buy the big 3 inch shells with more shot. This gave the reasonable expectation that all shots taken during the dispersion testing were aimed at the center-of-mass of the FLETC Transitional Target II. JOHN: So, for anyone watching, the reason why that is, is that the #00 pellets have a little more mass behind them so theyre going to penetrate a little bit deeper if theyre moving at about the same velocity, which those loads are pretty close. Shot recovered from 50 yard penetration test. This is, presumably, due to the fact that as you increase pellet diameter, you also increase the EFFECTIVE %age of antimony with regard to performance (hard for me to word). Killed a lot of deer with that combo. Most people arming themselves against violent criminals prefer lethality. One time only I tried fifteen .310 roundballs in my Bess, and banged away at 50 yards. Impact velocities used in this report were obtained from an Oehler System 85 (Figure 6) using no velocity corrections. Rios Game Load C20 (20 ga 2 3/4 00 Buck) has rather optimistic ballistics. #2128756 - 01/27/12 08:22 AM #4 buckshot with modified choke? We next look at the velocity versus distance from muzzle plot for this projectile: We see that the deformed #1 buckshot sphere will have slowed down to 993 ft/sec at a distance of 29 yards from the muzzle which corresponds to the penetration depth in gelatin of 12.0. The spine and neck are great targets. henro Registered All of the shotguns did substantially better than this. Generally 00 buck will open up about 1 per yard traveled with a cylinder bore 12 gauge. At 50 yards they lose a tremendous amount of velocity and energy no matter how fast you start them. JOHN: Well, we were talking about it and what we wanted to know was, how far out can we take buckshot and still have it pass the FBI heavy clothing terminal ballistics standard? So, thats what we did. Location: Gleason, TN. The 000 spreads at a linear rate instead of an exponential one, all the way out to about 50 yards. Package Quantity: 100. And Benny should chime in on this but it has always been my impression that OO is going to pattern tighter than OOO. If you can guarantee ranges shorter than this for your situation, the shotgun should be the first choice. We headed out to the range to find out with three representative shotguns. Am also testing my buckshot patterns. As tested, pattern-controlled #1 buckshot presents an interesting alternative to the more traditional 00 buckshot (also pattern-controlled) in that the maximum effective range is the same but the felt recoil is reduced by 23% over the 00 buckshot load. Its because the slug is heavy enough and powerful enough to penetrate deep and to break heavy bones. . Is it easy to get an internship at Microsoft? For defense against people my max range with 00 buck is 15 yards and slugs 35-50 yards. Buckshot patterns fall apart quickly. Remington has 9 pellets at 1,325 fps. Shotguns are wierd and very "individual", but all three of my M4's have LOVED this combination. By measuring sectional density. Can 00 buckshot kill a human? And by best here, I am talking about 40 yard patterns for deer, not across-the-bedroom patterns for home defense. Except at under 30 yards, it doesnt have the power to bust through the hide and penetrate both lungs. Want them to all be in about 6-8" use federal flight controled buck. It was necessary to determine the velocity of the buckshot spheres as they traveled downrange to know the maximum range at which the pellet would be able to meet the 12.0 minimum penetration depth in ballistic gelatin. In one memorable shootout from the movie, a desperado is taking off down a street when Mississippi lets loose with his scattergun. For self-defense indoors or in environments that physically cannot exceed 10 yards distance, we recommend #4 plated buckshot at 1250 ft/sec or higher muzzle velocity. The patterns at 20 yards. Mean radius is defined as the average of the straight line distances between the Center-of-Shot-Group and each shot (USARIEM TECHNICAL NOTE TN-01/2 STATISTICAL MEASURES OF MARKSMANSHIP Richard F. Johnson Military Performance Division February 2001 U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine) and was determined by utilizing OnTarget TDS software (OnTarget TDS). Check out this post which is one of the most popular of all time. It was about 14-ish inches on the #1 and around 18 on the #00. The big advantage of using a slug is that it has a much longer effective range than buckshot. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=86292. We reserve the right to edit as appropriate, delete profane, harassing, abusive and spam comments or posts, and block repeat offenders. Tactical Life Gun Magazine: Gun news, gun reviews and gun magazines for gun enthusiasts, military and law enforcement, You use of this website constitutes and manifests your acceptance of our. But, it was a dandy. For example: the 00 buckshot (plated, pattern-controlled) load, on average, spread 6.2 inches from the centerline of the bore by the time the shot pellets had traveled the 40 yards distance. But, I have always been intrigued by buck shot and have a shot a bunch at paper to see how it acts. At 30 it shot about a three inch group. With No.1 or No.2 Buckshot, its more like 35-40 yards max for a potent load that groups tight. This isn't very scientific, but the tightest patterning choke I had was an IC Benelli OEM choke that looked all grooved up inside. At 25 yards, figure a decent barrel will "pattern" around 30" which is larger than the average human. Anything bigger puts a serious wallop on your shoulder and the shorter ones seem to work fine. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! I wouldnt have an issue with Hornadys loads. I help equip people with knowledge and skills so they can be safe and effective with firearms. America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). I will aim for the front of the shoulder, near the base of the neck. Out of my M2 w/ light mod. If I were interested in animal control or something like that, would I take a shot at 50 on something? There are also frangible slugs made for home defense. Now hear me out, aiming for the shoulder takes the pattern, and spreads it out between the heart and lungs, the backbone, and the neck. The main issue with using buckshot is to know your limitations. I think if I had used a more open choke, the 00 would have shot better. A 12 gauge shotgun shell holds 8-9 pellets of 00 shot, 8 pellets of 000 shot. Because they are spheres, they have a horrible sectional density. WS6 The soft lead deforms, causing less uniformity and spacing out the shot in the pattern. But something to consider! The most common buckshot size used for defensive or tactical applications is 00 (pronounced "double-aught"). For the purposes of this report, the definition of buckshot is broken out into two categories: deformed and spherical. MOLON LABE. We used two different loads: Federal FliteControl #1 and Federal FliteControl #00 8-pellet. 50% tighter group @ 10 yards than my non PC buckshot. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. . A hit in this instance is a hit to the target that would be counted for qualification at FLETC. If you aim at the lungs, you stand a chance of taking out the spine with the top of your pattern, which would be nice. The next test platform was a Mossberg 500 with an 18-inch barrel and bead sights. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Slugs These are essentially oversized bullets designed to be fired from a shotgun. This video shows the results. *I have found the *rougher* the choke, the tighter the pattern, all things being equal. When hunting land animals with spreading shot, the only choke in existence for the task is full choke. The TSS #2 put 37 in the 10", 71 on the backer. Buckshot Patter (25 yards) Good/Bad/Thoughts. It made a 33 inch pattern. I havent used them myself, but I have heard several people getting outstanding results (incredibly tight groups) at 50 yards. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_3',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-guntradition_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');You really want most of your pattern to be on the deer. Most used full chokes and my guns always shot best with #1 buck. Shooting again at 25 yards, the 18-inch-barreled 500 created a 6.5-inch pattern while the 14-inch-barreled 590A1 produced a 14-inch pattern. Using a modified choke, . Federal Flite-Control 00 Buck-though that's designed as an anti-personnel load for out to 50 yards through riot guns. Lots of little holes by themselves do not work better than one big hole. Regular reader Jim in NC recently suggested I write more about buckshot, adding that I should not dismiss buckshot deer hunters as a bunch of knuckle dragging rednecks who should be shooting driven pheasants with Holland and Hollands. Hardly. #1 buckshot is likely the optimal load for self-defense with a shotgun. [Federals advertised velocity is 1100 for the #1 versus 1145 for the #00. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. As such, the maximum effective range of this load was determined to be 51 yards. 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